I spoke with Michigan Senator Elissa Slotkin (D-MI) about the risks of deploying US troops in the homeland. She had sharp words for Trump - and how his rhetoric drives the use of force we’re seeing by ICE. @senslotkin has deep expertise in national security and defense, serving three tours in Iraq. She has worked in senior roles at the Pentagon and White House under both Bush and Obama. We also discuss the shutdown. To watch the full interview - sign up for our Substack. It will be in your inbox